« QotD: Historical Sporting Event | Main | QotD: Tattoos »

03/26/2010

Comments

crankypants

Sweden after Germany?  clearly you have no idea what you are talking about if the only bands you can cite from Sweden are Abba and a-Ha, especially since a-ha is Norwegian.

crankypants

Australia should be #3.  If only for the fact that Nick Cave was born there, but seriously they have a shitload of great bands.  Also, New Zealand should be ahead of Germany.

crankypants

Hell, even Norway should be before Germany.  Germany, remember, is the nation that made David Hasselhoff a huge singing star.

Dabysan

I looked up the A-ha thing before I posted and didn't change it. Drat. Anyway, point still stands, because ABBA were an international pop phenomenon, and Aha only had the one song. 

Dabysan

I can't see putting Australia above Jamaica. What styles of music did Australia innovate (digeridoo doesn't count)? Who is the Australian Bob Marley. There are no good answers to these questions.

And who is from New Zealand? The only music I've heard from there is Flight of the Conchords.

Dabysan

Fair point on Hasselhoff, but he unfortunately goes on the United States' musical ledger, not Germany's. 

crankypants

what point still stands?  Sweden has put out a lot of good music since ABBA, if you are paying attention.  It might not be huge bands like ABBA but there are bands like Peter Bjorn and John, El Perro del Mar, Jose Gonzales, and a load of others who may not be huge in the states or worldwide but are well known among the indie types.  

hotrod

Japan needs its own line item at the bottom of the list.  Right after Germany.

Dabysan

Fair enough, but who are they going above? I mean, I'm no German music fan, but the Germans had a major hand in inventing two styles of popular music -- industrial and techno -- and have a pretty robust musical output. 

crankypants

New Zealand gave us the Finn brothers of Split Enz and Crowded House fame.  The Chills, and again, a bunch of other lesser known bands but that doesn't mean they aren't good.

why is my spellcheck flagging "Zealand"?

My point about Hasselhoff is not that he'd count for Germany, but their terrible taste in music and that they don't produce much of anything decent other than metal bands like Rammstein and Scorpions, if you like that sort of stuff.

All you said was producing the best music...not innovating genres or whatever.  I personally don't care for much reggae beyond Bob Marley, and I do count him huge but personally I don't care for much else that has come out of Jamaica.  Australia puts out a lot of really good rock bands.  period.  you didn't specify that any country got more points for inventing anything.  and why would there have to be an Australian Bob Marley for goodness sake?  or did you mean Dylan?  why would there have to be an Australian Bob Dylan either?  I'm sick of comparisons to Bob Dylan.

crankypants

okay you have a point about the industrial & techno music, I forgot about that.  How could I have forgotten Blixa and Einsturzende Neubauten?

crankypants

okay so Germany can go above NZ at least.  

hotrod

Nick Cave is the Australian Bob Dylan.

Dabysan

I'll be honest, I think 1 and 2 on this list could go either way and I feel the same way about 4 and 5. And from 6 on, I kinda lose interest. So the one position on this list I will defend with absolute zeal is #3. It's not just Bob Marley (or Jimmy Cliff, or Toots and the Maytals), but the profound impact that little old Jamaica has had on music worldwide. 

hotrod

Sweden is also home of the highly underrated Roxette, as well as Ace of Base.

RedScylla

Yes, Cranky, how could you have forgotten Blixa?! Or Rammstein?

Oh and France does have Iron Sy, so I'll give them credit for that, but otherwise...it is pretty iffy.

brownamazon

Dude, Australia beats Canada because of the "historical" BeeGees? What about Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, BTO, the Guess Who, Robbie Robertson and the Band, Gordon Lightfoot, April Wine, Rush...are you kidding me?  

Dabysan

Look, I was conflicted about the #4-#5 placement, and you do make good points, but I would suggest that the AC-DC/BeeGees combination is too strong for the Cannucks to overcome. 

brownamazon

Feh..I think the other non-Canadian peeps should weigh in on this one.

hotrod

Neil Young is a strong for Canada.  Rush, not so much.

M-----l

My order is as follows:

U.S.
Scotland
England
Canada
Ireland
Jamaica
Australia
Sweden

Two other comments:
#1. I like French pop music.
#2. One third of The Clash's output is shit.

Curlysalamander

Canada definitely needs to be much higher on the list.  Leonard Cohen!  Joni Mitchell!  Neil Young!

Dabysan

As to your list, Scotland, the last time I checked, was part of the United Kingdom. I don't know if that changes your ridiculous list at all, but it's worth considering that 2 of your top 3 are represented in my number one. Also, I'm sure you'll realize how patently insane it is to have Jamaica so low on this list, and that you're only doing it to annoy me, but still, c'mon.

As to #1 - outside of France, you're in the minority, and
#2 - Even if you include the regrettable "Cut the Crap" in the the Clash's output, that's still only about a tenth of their output that could be described as shit. Even if I give you some of the weaker tracks of Sandinista and Combat Rock, that maybe gets us up to 15 percent. The remaining 85 percent is better than everything in your impressive collection. 

Dabysan

Look, I'm willing to consider bumping Canada into the #4 slot above Australia, but they're not getting MUCH higher, because there's just no place to put them. Canada is not in the same universe as the US and UK and it isn't terribly close to Jamaica in terms of impact. 

hotrod

Here's the right list:

1. United States
2. England
3. Ireland
4. Scotland
5. Wales
6. Jamaica
7. Canada
8. Australia
9. Sweden
10. New Zealand
11. (tie) almost everybody else
12. Germany
13. Japan

See?  Jamaica is way down at number six.

The comments to this entry are closed.